Objections, Part Three難三
魯穆公問於子思曰:「吾聞龐𥼴氏之子不孝,其行奚如?」子思對曰:「君子尊賢以崇德,舉善以觀民。若夫過行,是細人之所識也,臣不知也。」子思出。子服厲伯入見,問龐𥼴氏子,子服厲伯對曰:「其過三。」皆君之所未嘗聞。自是之後,君貴子思而賤子服厲伯也。
Duke Mu of Lu asked Zisi, "I hear that the son of Pangjian is not filial. What is his conduct like?" Zisi answered, "The gentleman honors the worthy and so exalts virtue, and raises up the good and so shows the people. Faults of conduct are what small men take note of. Your servant does not know them." Zisi went out. Zifu Libo came in to the audience, and the ruler asked about the son of Pangjian. Zifu Libo answered, "His faults are three." All of them were things the ruler had never heard before. After this the ruler held Zisi in honor and Zifu Libo in contempt.
或曰:魯之公室,三世劫於季氏,不亦宜乎?明君求善而賞之,求姦而誅之,其得之一也。故以善聞之者,以說善同於上者也;以姦聞之者,以惡姦同於上者也,此宜賞譽之所及也。不以姦聞,是異於上而下比周於姦者也,此宜毁罰之所及也。今子思不以過聞而穆公貴之,厲伯以姦聞而穆公賤之。人情皆喜貴而惡賤,故季氏之亂成而不上聞,此魯君之所以劫也。且此亡王之俗,取、魯之民所以自美,而穆公獨貴之,不亦倒乎?
Someone says: The ducal house of Lu was coerced by the Ji clan for three generations. Was that not fitting? The enlightened ruler seeks out the good and rewards them, and seeks out the treacherous and puts them to death, and what he gains by both is one. So the man who reports the good is one who delights in the good as his superior does, and the man who reports treachery is one who hates treachery as his superior does. These are the men whom reward and praise should reach. Not to report treachery is to differ from one's superior and to band together below with the treacherous. This is the man whom blame and punishment should reach. Now Zisi did not report the fault and Duke Mu honored him. Libo reported the treachery and Duke Mu held him in contempt. The feelings of men all delight in honor and hate contempt. So the disorder of the Ji clan came to its full growth and never reached the ears above. This is why the ruler of Lu was coerced. Moreover this is the custom of a fallen king, the thing in which the people of Zou and Lu think themselves fine, and Duke Mu alone honored it. Is that not upside down?
Interlinear notes 1
The base text has 取; it is taken as an error for 鄒, the state of Zou. — translator
文公出亡,獻公使寺人披功之蒲城,披斬其袪,文公奔翟。惠公即位,又使功之惠竇,不得也。及文公反國,披求見。公曰:「蒲城之役,君令一宿,而汝即至;惠竇之難,君令三宿,而汝一宿,何其速也?」披對曰:「君令不二。除君之惡,惟恐不堪。蒲人、翟人,余何有焉?今公即位,其無蒲、翟乎?且桓公置射鈎而相管仲。」君乃見之。
When Duke Wen was in flight, Duke Xian sent the eunuch Pi to attack him at the city of Pu, and Pi cut off his sleeve, and Duke Wen fled to Di. When Duke Hui ascended the throne he again sent Pi to attack him at Huidou, but Pi did not take him. When Duke Wen came back to his state, Pi asked to be received. The duke said, "In the affair at the city of Pu the ruler set you one night, and you came at once. In the trouble at Huidou the ruler set you three nights, and you came after one night. How was it that you were so quick?" Pi answered, "The ruler's command is not two things. In taking away what the ruler hated I feared only that I could not do it. The men of Pu and the men of Di, what were they to me? Now your lordship has ascended the throne. Will there be no Pu and no Di again? Moreover Duke Huan set aside the shot at his belt hook and made Guan Zhong his prime minister." The ruler then received him.
或曰:齊、晉絶祀,不亦宜乎?桓公能用管仲之功而忘射鈎之怨,文公能聽寺人之言而弃斬祛之罪,桓公、文公能容二子者也。後世之君,明不及二公;後世之臣,賢不如二子。不忠之臣以事不明之君,君不知,則有燕操、子罕、田常之賊;知之,則以管仲、寺人自解。君必不誅而自以爲有桓、文之德,是臣讎而明不能燭,多假之資,自以爲賢而不戒,則雖無後嗣,不亦可乎?且寺人之言也,直飾君令而不貳者,則是貞於君也。死君復生,臣不愧,而後爲貞。今惠公朝卒而暮事文公,寺人之不貳何如?
Someone says: The sacrifices of Qi and Jin were cut off. Was that not fitting? Duke Huan could use the merit of Guan Zhong and forget his grudge over the shot at his belt hook. Duke Wen could listen to the words of the eunuch and cast away the crime of the cut sleeve. Duke Huan and Duke Wen were men who could take in these two. The rulers of later ages are not as clear-sighted as the two dukes, and the ministers of later ages are not as worthy as the two men. When a disloyal minister serves a ruler who is not clear-sighted, then if the ruler does not know him there are villains like Cao of Yan and Zihan and Tian Chang, and if the ruler does know him the minister excuses himself by pointing to Guan Zhong and the eunuch. If the ruler is then certain not to put him to death, and thinks himself to have the virtue of Duke Huan and Duke Wen, then he has an enemy for a minister and no light to see it by, he lends him much means, he thinks himself worthy and takes no warning. Then though he leave no heir, is that not fitting? Moreover the eunuch's words were only that he had dressed up the ruler's command and had not been of two minds. If so, this is uprightness toward his ruler. Only when the dead ruler could come back to life and the minister feel no shame is it uprightness. Now Duke Hui died in the morning and in the evening Pi served Duke Wen. What of the eunuch's not being of two minds?
人有設桓公隱者曰:「一難,二難,三難,何也?」桓公不能對,以告管仲。管仲對曰:「一難也,近優而遠士。二難也,去其國而數之海。三難也,君老而晩置太子。」桓公曰:「善。」不擇日而廟禮太子。
A man set Duke Huan a riddle and said, "What are the first difficulty, the second difficulty and the third difficulty?" Duke Huan could not answer, and told Guan Zhong. Guan Zhong answered, "The first difficulty is to keep entertainers near and gentlemen far. The second difficulty is to leave one's state and go often to the sea. The third difficulty is for the ruler to grow old and set up a crown prince late." Duke Huan said, "Good." Without choosing a day he performed the rite for the crown prince in the ancestral temple.
或曰:管仲之射隱,不得也。士之用不在近遠,而俳優侏儒固人主之所與燕也,則近優而遠士而以爲治,非其難者也。夫處勢而不能用其有,而悖不去國,是以一人之力禁一國。以一人之力禁一國者,少能勝之。明能照遠姦而見隱微,必行之令,雖遠於海,内必無變。然則去國之海而不劫殺,非其難者也。楚成王置商臣以爲太子,又欲置公子職,商臣作難,遂弑成王。公子宰,周太子也,公子根有寵,遂以東州反,分而爲兩國。此皆非晩置太子之患也。夫分勢不二,庶孽卑,寵無藉,雖處大臣,晚置太子可也。然則晚置太子,庶孽不亂,又非其難也。物之所謂難者,必借人成勢而勿使侵害己,可謂一難也。貴妾不使二后,二難也。愛孽不使危正適,專聽一臣而不敢偶君,此則可謂三難也。
Someone says: Guan Zhong's answer to the riddle did not hit it. The use of gentlemen does not lie in near or far, and entertainers and dwarfs are from of old the men a ruler feasts with. So to keep entertainers near and gentlemen far and still have government is not the difficult thing. Now to sit in power and be unable to use what one has, and to be thwarted and yet not leave the state, is to hold back a whole state by the strength of one man. Few who hold back a whole state by the strength of one man can prevail. If his light can shine on distant treachery and see what is hidden and minute, and his commands are certain to be carried out, then though he be far off at the sea there will surely be no upheaval within. So to leave the state and go to the sea and not be coerced or killed is not the difficult thing. King Cheng of Chu set up Shangchen as crown prince, and then wished to set up Prince Zhi. Shangchen raised a revolt and in the end killed King Cheng. Prince Zai was the crown prince of Zhou, and Prince Gen was favored, and in the end he turned against them with Dongzhou, and it was split into two states. None of these was the trouble of setting up a crown prince late. Now if power is not divided in two, if the sons of concubines are kept low, and if favor gives them nothing to lean on, then even with great ministers in place it is allowable to set up a crown prince late. So to set up a crown prince late and have the sons of concubines make no disorder is again not the difficult thing. What is called difficult in these matters is this. To borrow men and so build one's power, and yet not let them encroach upon oneself and do harm, may be called the first difficulty. Not to let an honored concubine make a second queen is the second difficulty. Not to let a beloved son of a concubine endanger the rightful heir, and to give ear to one minister alone and yet not let him dare to match the ruler, this may be called the third difficulty.
Interlinear notes 1
The base text has 公子宰; he appears to be the same man as 公子朝 in the Inner Congeries, Lower. — translator
葉公子高問政於仲尼,仲尼曰:「政在悅近而來遠。」哀公問政於仲尼,仲尼曰:「政在選賢。」齊景公問政於仲尼,仲尼曰:「政在節財。」三公出,子貢問曰:「三公問夫子政一也,夫子對之不同,何也?」仲尼曰:「葉都大而國小,民有背心,故曰『政在悅近而來遠』。魯哀公有大臣三人,外障距諸侯四隣之士,内比周而以愚其君,使宗廟不掃除,社稷不血食者,必是三臣也,故曰『政在選賢』。齊景公築雍門,爲路寢,一朝而以三百乘之家賜者三,故曰『政在節財』。」
Duke She Zigao asked Zhongni about government. Zhongni said, "Government lies in pleasing those near and drawing those far." Duke Ai asked Zhongni about government. Zhongni said, "Government lies in choosing the worthy." Duke Jing of Qi asked Zhongni about government. Zhongni said, "Government lies in sparing wealth." When the three lords had gone out, Zigong asked, "The three lords asked the master about one thing, government, and the master answered them differently. Why was that?" Zhongni said, "She is a great city in a small state, and the people have hearts that turn away. So I said, 'Government lies in pleasing those near and drawing those far.' Duke Ai of Lu has three great ministers. Outside they block and shut out the gentlemen of the feudal lords and of the four neighbors, and inside they band together and make their ruler a fool. The men who will leave the ancestral temple unswept and the altars of soil and grain without blood offerings are surely these three ministers. So I said, 'Government lies in choosing the worthy.' Duke Jing of Qi built the Yong Gate and made the great hall, and in one morning he three times granted a household of three hundred chariots. So I said, 'Government lies in sparing wealth.'"
或曰:仲尼之對,亡國之言也。葉民有倍心,而說之「悅近而來遠」,則是教民懷惠。惠之爲政,無功者受賞,而有罪者免,此法之所以敗也。法敗而政亂,以亂政治敗民,未見其可也。且民有倍心者,君上之明有所不及也。不紹葉公之明,而使之悅近而來遠,是舍吾勢之所能禁而使與下行惠以爭民,非能持勢者也。夫堯之賢,六王之冠也。舜一徙而成邑,而堯無天下矣。有人無術以禁下,恃爲舜而不失其民,不亦無術乎?明君見小姦於微,故民無大謀;行小誅於細,故民無大亂。此謂「圖難於其所易也,爲大者於其所細也」。今有功者必賞,賞者不得君,力之所致也;有罪者必誅,誅者不怨上,罪之所生也。民知誅賞之皆起於身也,故疾功利於業,而不受賜於君。「太上,下智有之。」此言太上之下民無說也,安取懷惠之民?上君之民無利害,說以「悅近來遠」,亦可舍已。
Someone says: Zhongni's answers are the words that lose a state. The people of She had hearts that turned away, and to tell him to please those near and draw those far is to teach the people to cherish favors. When government is done by favors, those without merit receive rewards and those with crimes go free. This is how law is ruined. When law is ruined government falls into disorder. It has never been seen that a ruined people can be governed by disordered government. Moreover the people have hearts that turn away because there is something the ruler's light does not reach. Not to carry on the light of Duke She, but to have him please those near and draw those far, is to lay aside what his own power can forbid and to join with those below in doing favors and contending for the people. He is not a man who can hold power. Now the worthiness of Yao was the first among the six kings. Shun moved once and a town was formed, and Yao no longer had the world. Here is a man with no method for holding back those below, who trusts to being a Shun and so not losing his people. Is that not to be without method? The enlightened ruler sees small treachery while it is minute, so the people make no great plots. He carries out small punishments upon trifles, so the people make no great disorder. This is what is meant by "plan for the difficult while it is easy, and do the great while it is small." Now he who has merit is certainly rewarded, and the rewarded man has not got it from the ruler. His own strength brought it about. He who has a crime is certainly put to death, and the man put to death does not resent his superior. His own crime gave birth to it. The people know that death and reward both rise out of themselves, so they press after merit and profit in their work and receive no gifts from the ruler. "The highest of all, those below only know that he is there." This says that the people under the highest of all have nothing to praise. Where then would one get a people that cherish favors? The people of a high ruler have neither profit nor harm from him, so the saying about pleasing those near and drawing those far may well be laid aside.
哀公有臣外障距内比周以愚其君,而說之以「選賢」,此非功伐之論也,選其心之所謂賢者也。使哀公知三子外障距内比周也,則三子不一日立矣。哀公不知選賢,選其心之所謂賢,故三子得任事。燕子噲賢子之而非孫卿,故身死爲僇;夫差智太宰嚭而愚子胥,故滅於越。魯君不必知賢,而說以選賢,是使哀公有夫差、燕噲之患也。明君不自舉臣,臣相進也;不自賢,功自徇也。論之於任,試之於事,課之於功,故羣臣公政而無私,不隱賢,不進不肖,然則人主奚勞於選賢?
Duke Ai had ministers who blocked outside and banded together inside and made their ruler a fool, and to tell him to choose the worthy is not a judgment by achievement. It is choosing those whom his own heart calls worthy. Had Duke Ai known that the three men blocked outside and banded together inside, the three would not have stood for a single day. Duke Ai did not know how to choose the worthy, and chose those whom his heart called worthy, so the three men were able to hold office. Zikuai of Yan called Zizhi worthy and Sun Qing wrong, so he himself died and was made a public shame. Fuchai thought the grand steward Pi wise and Zixu a fool, so he was destroyed by Yue. The ruler of Lu does not necessarily know the worthy, and to tell him to choose the worthy is to give Duke Ai the trouble of Fuchai and of Zikuai of Yan. The enlightened ruler does not raise up ministers himself. The ministers put one another forward. He does not call men worthy himself. Achievement makes its own round. He weighs a man by the appointment, tries him in affairs, and rates him by results. So the host of ministers govern in a public spirit and have no private aims. They do not hide the worthy and do not put forward the unfit. That being so, what labor has the ruler in choosing the worthy?
景公以百乘之家賜,而說以「節財」,是使景公無術以知富之侈,而獨儉於上,未免於貧也。有君以千里養其口腹,則雖桀、紂不侈焉。齊國方三千里而桓公以其半自養,是侈於桀、紂也;然而能爲五霸冠者,知侈儉之地也。爲君不能禁下而自禁者謂之劫,不能飾下而自飾者謂之亂,不節下而自節者謂之貧。明君使人無私,以詐而食者禁;力盡於事、歸利於上者必聞,聞者必賞;汙穢爲私者必知,知者必誅。然,故忠臣盡忠於公,民士竭力於家,百官精尅於上,侈倍景公,非國之患也。然則說之以節財,非其急者也。
Duke Jing granted a household of a hundred chariots, and to tell him to spare wealth is to leave Duke Jing without a method for knowing the extravagance of the rich and to make him frugal alone at the top. He will not escape poverty. If a ruler feeds his own mouth and belly with a thousand li, then not even Jie or Zhou was more extravagant than that. Qi is three thousand li square, and Duke Huan fed himself with half of it. This was more extravagant than Jie and Zhou. Yet he could become the first of the five hegemons, because he knew where extravagance and frugality belong. When a ruler cannot forbid those below and forbids himself, this is called being coerced. When he cannot adorn those below and adorns himself, this is called disorder. When he does not stint those below and stints himself, this is called poverty. The enlightened ruler makes men have no private aims. Those who eat by deceit are forbidden. Those who spend their strength on affairs and turn the profit over to the ruler are certainly made known, and those made known are certainly rewarded. Those who act foully for private gain are certainly found out, and those found out are certainly put to death. Therefore loyal ministers give all their loyalty to the public business, the people and the gentlemen spend their strength in their households, and the hundred officers strive with care for their ruler. Then extravagance twice that of Duke Jing is no trouble to the state. That being so, to tell him to spare wealth was not the urgent thing.
夫對三公一言而三公可以無患,知下之謂也。知下明則禁於微,禁於微則姦無積,姦無積則無比周,無比周則公私分,公私分則朋黨散,朋黨散則無外障距内比周之患。知下明則見精沐,見精沐則誅賞明,誅賞明則國不貧。故曰:一對而三公無患,知下之謂也。
Now to answer three lords in one word, and so leave the three lords without trouble, is what is meant by knowing those below. When the knowing of those below is clear, one forbids things while they are minute. When one forbids things while they are minute, treachery does not pile up. When treachery does not pile up, there is no banding together. When there is no banding together, public and private are divided. When public and private are divided, factions scatter. When factions scatter, there is no trouble of blocking outside and banding together inside. When the knowing of those below is clear, one sees what is fine and clean. When one sees what is fine and clean, death and reward are clear. When death and reward are clear, the state is not poor. So it is said: to answer once and leave the three lords without trouble is what is meant by knowing those below.
鄭子産晨出,過東匠之閭,聞婦人之哭,撫其御之手而聽之。有間,遣吏執而問之,則手絞其夫者也。異日,其御問曰:「夫子何以知之?」子産曰:「其聲懼。凡人於其親愛也,始病而憂,臨死而懼,已死而哀。今哭已死,不哀而懼,是以知其有姦也。」
Zichan of Zheng went out at dawn and passed the ward of Dongjiang. He heard a woman weeping, and he pressed his driver's hand and listened. After a while he sent an officer to seize her and question her, and she had strangled her own husband with her hands. On another day his driver asked, "How did the master know it?" Zichan said, "Her voice was afraid. When a man is dealing with one he loves dearly, at the start of the illness he is anxious, at the point of death he is afraid, and once the death has come he grieves. Here she was weeping for one already dead, and she did not grieve but was afraid. By this I knew there was treachery."
或曰:子産之治,不亦多士乎?姦必待耳目之所及而後知之,則鄭國之得姦者寡矣。不任典成之吏,不察參伍之政,不明度量,恃盡聰明勞智慮而以知姦,不亦無術乎?且夫物衆而智寡,寡不勝衆,智不足以徧知物,故因物以治物。下衆而上寡,寡不勝衆者,言君不足以徧知臣也,故因人以知人。是以形體不勞而事治,智慮不用而姦得。故宋人語曰:「一雀過羿,羿必得之,則羿誣矣。以天下爲之羅,則雀不失矣。」夫知姦亦有大羅,不失其一而已矣。不修其理,而以己之胷察爲之弓矢,則子産誣矣。老子曰:「以智治國,國之賊也。」其子産之謂矣。
Someone says: Is Zichan's governing not full of bother? If treachery must wait upon what his ear and eye reach before it is known, then few in the state of Zheng will be caught at treachery. Not to leave it to the officers charged with judgments, not to look into a government of cross-checking, not to make clear the measures and weights, but to exhaust his hearing and sight and weary his wits in order to know treachery, is that not to be without method? Moreover things are many and wits are few, and the few do not overcome the many. Wits are not enough to know all things, so one uses things to govern things. Those below are many and those above are few, and the few do not overcome the many. This says that the ruler is not enough to know all his ministers, so one uses men to know men. Thus the body is not wearied and affairs are governed, the wits are not used and treachery is caught. So the men of Song have a saying, "If one sparrow passes Yi and Yi must take it, then Yi is a fraud. Make a net of the whole world and no sparrow is lost." Now in knowing treachery too there is a great net, and by it not one is lost. If a man does not cultivate that principle, but makes the watching of his own breast into his bow and arrows, then Zichan is a fraud. Laozi said, "To govern a state by wits is the ruin of the state." That was said of Zichan.
秦昭王問於左右曰:「今時韓、魏孰與始強?」左右對曰:「弱於始也。」「今之如耳、魏齊孰與曩之孟嘗、芒卯?」對曰:「不及也。」王曰:「孟嘗、芒卯率強韓、魏,猶無奈寡人何也。」左右對曰:「甚然。」中期推琴而對曰:「王之料天下過矣。夫六晉之時,知氏最強,滅范、中行而從韓、魏之兵以伐趙,灌以晉水,城之未沈者三板。知伯出,魏宣子御,韓康子爲驂乘。知伯曰:『始吾不知水可以滅人之國,吾乃今知之。汾水可以灌安邑,絳水可以灌平陽。』魏宣子肘韓康子,康子踐宣子之足,肘足接乎車上,而知氏分於晉陽之下。今足下雖強,未若知氏;韓、魏雖弱,未至如其在晉陽之下也。此天下方用肘足之時,願王勿易之也。」
King Zhao of Qin asked those about him, "How do Han and Wei today compare with what they were at first?" Those about him answered, "They are weaker than at first." "And how do Ru'er and Wei Qi of today compare with Mengchang and Mang Mao of old?" They answered, "They do not come up to them." The king said, "Mengchang and Mang Mao led a strong Han and Wei, and still they could do nothing to me." Those about him answered, "That is very true." Zhongqi pushed his zither aside and answered, "Your majesty reckons the world wrongly. In the time of the six houses of Jin the Zhi clan was the strongest. It wiped out the Fan and the Zhonghang, and led the troops of Han and Wei to strike at Zhao, and poured the water of the Jin River upon them, and of the wall only three boards were not sunk. When Zhi Bo drove out, Xuanzi of Wei held the reins and Kangzi of Han rode at his side. Zhi Bo said, 'At first I did not know that water could wipe out a man's state. Now at last I know it. The Fen River can drown Anyi, and the Jiang River can drown Pingyang.' Xuanzi of Wei nudged Kangzi of Han with his elbow, and Kangzi trod on Xuanzi's foot. Elbow and foot spoke together upon the chariot, and the Zhi clan was divided up below Jinyang. Now your lordship is strong, but not as the Zhi clan was, and Han and Wei are weak, but they have not come to what they were below Jinyang. This is the hour when the world is using elbow and foot. I beg your majesty not to take it lightly."
或曰:昭王之問也有失,左右中期之對也有過。凡明主之治國也,任其勢。勢不可害,則雖強天下無奈何也,而況孟嘗、芒卯、韓、魏能奈我何?其勢可害也,則不肖如如耳、魏齊及韓、魏猶能害之。然則害與不侵,在自恃而已矣,奚問乎?自恃其不可侵,則強與弱奚其擇焉?失在不自恃,而問其奈何也,其不侵也幸矣。申子曰:「失之數而求之信,則疑矣。」其昭王之謂也。知伯無度,從韓康、魏宣而圖以水灌滅其國,此知伯之所以國亡而身死,頭爲飲柸之故也。今昭王乃問孰與始強,其畏有水人之患乎?雖有左右,非韓、魏之二子也,安有肘足之事?而中期曰「勿易」,此虚言也。且中期之所官,琴瑟也。絃不調,弄不明,中期之任也,此中期所以事昭王者也。中期善承其任,未慊昭王也,而爲所不知,豈不妄哉?左右對之曰「弱於始」與「不及」則可矣,其曰「甚然」則諛也。申子曰:「治不踰官,雖知不言。」今中期不知而尚言之。故曰:昭王之問有失,左右中期之對皆有過也。
Someone says: There was a fault in King Zhao's question, and there were faults in the answers of those about him and of Zhongqi. In all governing of a state the enlightened ruler leaves it to his power. If his power cannot be harmed, then even a world made strong can do nothing to him. How much less could Mengchang and Mang Mao and Han and Wei do anything to me? If his power can be harmed, then even unfit men like Ru'er and Wei Qi, and Han and Wei, can still harm him. That being so, being harmed or not being encroached upon lies in trusting oneself and nothing else. What is there to ask? If he trusts that he cannot be encroached upon, why should he pick out the strong from the weak? The fault lies in not trusting himself and asking what is to be done about it. That he is not encroached upon is mere luck. Shenzi said, "To lose it in the reckoning and seek it in good faith is to fall into doubt." That was said of King Zhao. Zhi Bo was without measure. He followed Kangzi of Han and Xuanzi of Wei and planned to pour water upon their states and wipe them out. This is why Zhi Bo's state was lost and he himself died, and his head was made into a drinking cup. Now King Zhao asked which was the stronger, today or the beginning. Was he afraid of the trouble of a man who floods with water? Though he had men about him, they were not the two men of Han and Wei. How could there be any matter of elbow and foot? Yet Zhongqi said, "Do not take it lightly." These are empty words. Moreover the office Zhongqi held was the zither and the lute. That the strings be in tune and the playing be clear was Zhongqi's charge, and this was how Zhongqi served King Zhao. Zhongqi may uphold his charge well and still not satisfy King Zhao, and here he did what he did not understand. Is that not reckless? When those about him answered "weaker than at first" and "they do not come up to them," that was allowable. When they said "that is very true," that was flattery. Shenzi said, "In governing do not overstep your office. Though you know, do not speak." Now Zhongqi did not know and spoke all the same. So it is said: there was a fault in King Zhao's question, and there were faults in the answers of those about him and of Zhongqi.
管子曰:「見其可,說之有證;見其不可,惡之有形。賞罰信於所見,雖所不見,其敢爲之乎?見其可,說之無證;見其不可,惡之無形。賞罰不信於所見,而求所不見之外,不可得也。」
Guanzi said, "When he sees what may be done, his delight has proof. When he sees what may not be done, his hatred has a shape. If reward and punishment are trustworthy in what is seen, then even in what is not seen would men dare to do it? When he sees what may be done and his delight has no proof, when he sees what may not be done and his hatred has no shape, then reward and punishment are not trustworthy in what is seen, and to seek beyond, in what is not seen, cannot be attained."
或曰:廣廷嚴居,衆人之所肅也;宴室獨處,曾、史之所僈也。觀人之所肅,非行情也。且君上者,臣下之所爲飾也。好惡在所見,臣下之飾姦物以愚其君,必也。明不能燭遠姦,見隱微,而待之以觀飾行,定賞罰,不亦弊乎?
Someone says: A broad court and a solemn seat are where the many become grave. A feasting room and being alone are where even Zeng Shen and Shi Qiu grow slack. To watch men where they become grave is not to see their feelings acted out. Moreover the ruler is the one for whom those below dress themselves up. If his likes and dislikes lie in what is seen, then it is certain that those below will dress up treacherous things and make their ruler a fool. When his light cannot shine on distant treachery and see what is hidden and minute, and he waits to watch dressed-up conduct in order to settle reward and punishment, is he not blinded?
管子曰:「言於室,滿於室;言於堂,滿於堂,是謂天下王。」
Guanzi said, "Speak in the room and it fills the room. Speak in the hall and it fills the hall. This is called being king of the world."
或曰:管仲之所謂言室滿室、言堂滿堂者,非特謂遊戲飲食之言也,必謂大物也。人主之大物,非法則術也。法者,編著之圖籍,設之於官府,而布之於百姓者也。術者,藏之於𦙄中,以偶衆端而潜御羣臣者也。故法莫如顯,而術不欲見。是以明主言法,則境内卑賤莫不聞知也,不獨滿於堂;用術,則親受近習莫之得聞也,不得滿室。而管子猶曰「言於室滿室,言於堂滿堂」,非法術之言也。
Someone says: What Guan Zhong called speaking in the room and filling the room, and speaking in the hall and filling the hall, does not mean only the words of play and of food and drink. It must mean the great matters. The great matters of a ruler are either law or method. Law is what is written down in the registers, set up in the offices and spread abroad among the hundred families. Method is what is hidden in the breast, by which he matches up the many threads and secretly drives the host of ministers. So nothing suits law like being open, and method does not wish to be seen. Thus when the enlightened ruler speaks of law, there is none within his borders, however low and humble, who does not hear and know it, and it does not merely fill the hall. When he uses method, those close to him and those he is familiar with cannot hear it, and it cannot fill the room. Yet Guanzi says, "Speak in the room and it fills the room. Speak in the hall and it fills the hall." These are not the words of law and method.