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Ze Yang莊子 雜篇 則陽

Zhuangzi (The Book of Master Zhuang) 莊子 · Zhuang Zhou and later hands · Warring States period (4th–3rd century BC) · Guo Xiang's thirty-three-chapter recension · 55 passages · 2,741 Chinese characters · reading time 11.0 min

Zhuangzi (The Book of Master Zhuang) Miscellaneous Chapters "In the dark sea of the north there is a fish, and its name is Kun" — the book opens with this one line, and with a bird whose back is so wide that no one knows how many thousand li it measures setting out for the southern sea. He dreams he is a butterfly and wakes to ask whether he dreamed the butterfly or the butterfly is dreaming him; a butcher cuts up oxen for nineteen years without ever whetting his blade; when his wife dies he drums on a tub and sings. He stops a war with the tale of two kingdoms fighting on the horns of a snail until tens of thousands of dead lay fallen, and passing the grave of Huizi he says that he has no one left to talk with. Set beside the Daodejing, it can be heard speaking of the same ground in a very different voice.

1Ze Yang wanders to Chu

則陽游於楚,夷節言之於王,王未之見,夷節歸。

Ze Yang wandered to Chu. Yi Jie spoke of him to the king, but the king did not see him, and Yi Jie went home.

2Why do you not speak of me to the king

彭陽見王果曰:「夫子何不譚我於王?」

Peng Yang saw Wang Guo and said, "Master, why do you not speak of me to the king?"

3I am not the equal of Gong Yuexiu

王果曰:「我不若公閱休。」

Wang Guo said, "I am not the equal of Gong Yuexiu."

4What sort of man is Gong Yuexiu

彭陽曰:「公閱休奚為者邪?」

Peng Yang said, "What sort of man is Gong Yuexiu?"

5In winter he spears turtles, in summer he rests at the foot of the mountains

曰:「冬則擉鼈於江,夏則休乎山樊。有過而問者,曰:『此予宅也。』夫夷節已不能,而況我乎!吾又不若夷節。夫夷節之為人也,无德而有知,不自許,以之神其交固,顛冥乎富貴之地,非相助以德,相助消也。夫凍者假衣於春,暍者反冬乎冷風。夫楚王之為人也,形尊而嚴;其於罪也,無赦如虎;非夫佞人正德,其孰能橈焉!

He said, "In winter he spears turtles in the river, and in summer he rests at the foot of the mountains. If someone passes by and asks, he says, 'This is my house.'

Now even Yi Jie cannot do that, how much less I. And I am not the equal of Yi Jie either.

The man Yi Jie has no virtue but he has knowledge. He does not grant himself to others, and by this he makes his friendships uncanny and firm. He is a man whose wits are lost in the place of wealth and rank. He does not help others with virtue. He helps them to melt away.

A man who is frozen borrows clothing in the spring, and a man struck by the heat turns back to the cold wind of winter. The king of Chu as a man is lofty and stern in his bearing, and toward crimes he is without pardon, like a tiger. Unless a man is a flatterer or a man of upright virtue, who can bend him?

6The sage in want makes his household forget their poverty

故聖人,其窮也使家人忘其貧,其達也使王公忘爵祿而化卑。其於物也,與之為娛矣;其於人也,樂物之通而保己焉;故或不言而飲人以和,與人並立而使人化。父子之宜,彼其乎歸居,而一閒其所施。其於人心者若是其遠也。故曰待公閱休。」

So the sage, when he is in want, makes the people of his house forget their poverty, and when he gets through, he makes kings and nobles forget rank and stipend and turn to what is low.

Toward things he takes joy with them. Toward men he delights in their getting through, and he keeps himself. So at times he does not speak, and yet he gives men harmony to drink, and merely by standing beside a man he changes him.

Like the fitness of father and son, he lets each go back to his own place and dwell there, and he keeps what he bestows always at leisure. So far off is he from the hearts of men. That is why I said, wait for Gong Yuexiu."

7The sage gets through what is tangled and goes all round the whole body

聖人達綢繆,周盡一體矣,而不知其然,性也。復命搖作而以天為師,人則從而命之也。憂乎知而所行恆无幾時,其有止也若之何!

The sage gets through what is tangled and knotted, and he goes all round and exhausts the whole body, yet he does not know that it is so. This is his nature.

He goes back to his destiny, and in his stirring and doing he takes heaven for his teacher. Men then follow after and give him the name of sage.

One is anxious about knowledge, and what one does never lasts long. What is to be done about its coming to a stop?

8For one beautiful from birth, others are his mirror

生而美者,人與之鑑,不告則不知其美於人也。若知之,若不知之,若聞之,若不聞之,其可喜也終无已,人之好之亦无已,性也。聖人之愛人也,人與之名,不告則不知其愛人也。若知之,若不知之,若聞之,若不聞之,其愛人也終无已,人之安之亦无已,性也。

For one who is beautiful from birth, others are his mirror. If he is not told, he does not know that he is more beautiful than others.

Whether he knows it or does not know it, whether he hears it or does not hear it, his delight in it never comes to an end, and men's liking of him never comes to an end. This is his nature.

So too when a sage loves men. Others give him the name for it, and if he is not told, he does not know that he loves men.

Whether he knows it or does not know it, whether he hears it or does not hear it, his love of men never comes to an end, and men's peace in him never comes to an end. This is his nature.

9The old country and the old capital lighten the heart just to look at

舊國舊都,望之暢然;雖使丘陵草木之緡,入之者十九,猶之暢然。況見見聞聞者也,以十仞之臺縣衆閒者也。

The old country, the old capital: to look at it is enough to lighten the heart. Even if hills and grasses and trees have grown over it in a tangle and nine parts in ten are buried, still the heart is lightened.

How much more for one who sees what he has seen and hears what he has heard. He is like a terrace ten fathoms high hung up in the midst of the crowd.

10The Ranxiang clan gets the center of the ring

冉相氏得其環中以隨成,與物无終无始,无幾无時。日與物化者,一不化者也,闔嘗舍之!夫師天而不得師天,與物皆殉,其以為事也若之何?夫聖人未始有天,未始有人,未始有始,未始有物,與世偕行而不替,所行之備而不洫,其合之也若之何?湯得其司御門尹登恆為之傅之,從師而不囿;得其隨成。為之司其名;之名嬴法,得其兩見。仲尼之盡慮,為之傅之。容成氏曰:「除日无歲,无內无外。」

The Ranxiang clan got the center of the ring and followed things to their completion. With things there was no ending and no beginning, no measure and no time. One who changes with things day by day is the one who does not change. How should he ever let go of this?

If a man tries to take heaven for his teacher, he does not get heaven for his teacher, and he goes down to the grave along with things. What sort of business is it to make this one's work?

For the sage there has never begun to be heaven, never begun to be man, never begun to be a beginning, never begun to be things. He goes along with the age and does not stop. What he does is complete and does not overflow. What sort of fitting is that?

King Tang got his driver Menyin Dengheng and took him for his teacher. He followed his teacher and yet was not fenced in by him, and he got the following of things to their completion. He put him in charge of the name, and the name overflowed the standard, so that both were made manifest. Zhongni exhausted his thought, and this too was taking such a man for a teacher.

The Rongcheng clan said, "Take away the days and there is no year. There is no inside and no outside."

11The covenant Wei Ying made with Tian Mou

魏瑩與田侯牟約,田侯牟背之,魏瑩怒,將使人剌之。

Ying of Wei made a covenant with Marquis Tian Mou of Qi, and Tian Mou broke it. Wei Ying was angry and was about to send a man to stab him.

12Give me two hundred thousand soldiers and I will attack him

犀首公孫衍聞而恥之,曰:「君為萬乘之君也,而以匹夫從讎!衍請受甲二十萬,為君攻之,虜其人民,係其牛馬,使其君內熱發於背。然後拔其國。忌也出走,然後抶其背,折其脊。」

Xishou Gongsun Yan heard of it and was ashamed, and said, "My lord is the lord of ten thousand chariots, and would you take your revenge in the manner of a common man? Give me two hundred thousand armored soldiers, and I will attack him for my lord, take his people captive, and lead away his oxen and horses on a tether. I will make his ruler burn inside until a boil breaks out on his back. Then I will pluck up his state. When Tian Ji runs away, I will strike his back and break his spine."

13Building a wall ten fathoms high and then tearing it down

季子聞而恥之,曰:「築十仞之城,城者既十仞矣,則又壞之,此胥靡之所苦也。今兵不起七年矣,此王之基也。衍亂人,不可聽也。」

Jizi heard of it and was ashamed, and said, "To build a wall ten fathoms high, and then, when it is already ten fathoms, to tear it down again, is to torment the convict labourers. It is now seven years since troops were raised, and this is my lord's foundation. Gongsun Yan is a man who throws people into disorder. He must not be listened to."

14The one who says attack and the one who says do not attack both throw people into disorder

華子聞而醜之,曰:「善言伐齊者,亂人也;善言勿伐者,亦亂人也;謂伐之與不伐亂人也者,又亂人也。」

Huazi heard of it and found it ugly, and said, "One who argues well for attacking Qi is a man who throws people into disorder. One who argues well against attacking is also a man who throws people into disorder. And one who says that those who would attack and those who would not attack are men who throw people into disorder is himself a man who throws people into disorder."

15Then what am I to do

君曰:「然則若何?」

The ruler said, "Then what am I to do?"

16My lord has only to seek the Way

曰:「君求其道而已矣!」

He said, "My lord has only to seek the Way."

17Do you know the snail

惠子聞之而見戴晉人。戴晉人曰:「有所謂蝸者,君知之乎?」

Huizi heard of this and brought Dai Jinren in to see him. Dai Jinren said, "There is a thing called the snail. Does my lord know it?"

18I do

曰:「然。」

He said, "I do."

19The Chu clan on the left horn and the Man clan on the right

「有國於蝸之左角者曰觸氏,有國於蝸之右角者曰蠻氏。時相與爭地而戰,伏尸數萬,逐北旬有五日而後反。」

"There is a state on the left horn of the snail called the Chu clan, and a state on the right horn of the snail called the Man clan. From time to time they fight each other over land. The corpses that fall are tens of thousands, and they chase the fleeing for fifteen days before they turn back."

20Is that empty talk

君曰:「噫!其虛言與?」

The ruler said, "Ah. Is that empty talk?"

21Is there a limit to the four directions and to up and down

曰:「臣請為君實之。君以意在四方上下有窮乎?」

He said, "Let me make it real for my lord. Does my lord think there is a limit to the four directions and to up and down?"

22There is no limit

君曰:「無窮。」

The ruler said, "There is no limit."

23When the mind that wandered in the limitless comes back

曰:「知遊心於無窮,而反在通達之國,若存若亡乎?」

He said, "If a man knows how to let his mind wander in the limitless, and then comes back to the lands where men come and go, do those lands not seem to be there and not to be there?"

24It is so

君曰:「然。」

The ruler said, "It is so."

25Is there any difference between my lord and the Man clan

曰:「通達之中有魏,於魏中有梁,於梁中有王。王與蠻氏,有辯乎?」

He said, "Among the lands where men come and go there is Wei. Within Wei there is Daliang. Within Daliang there is my lord. Is there any difference between my lord and the Man clan?"

26There is no difference

君曰:「无辯。」

The ruler said, "There is no difference."

27The guest goes out and the ruler is dazed as if he had lost something

客出而君惝然若有亡也。

The guest went out, and the ruler was dazed, as if he had lost something.

28The guest is a great man, and a sage is not enough to match him

客出,惠子見。君曰:「客,大人也,聖人不足以當之。」

After the guest went out, Huizi came in to see him. The ruler said, "That guest is a great man. A sage is not enough to match him."

29Blow a pipe and it drones, blow the pommel of a sword and it only puffs

惠子曰:「夫吹莞也,猶有嗃也;吹劍首者,吷而已矣。堯舜,人之所譽也;道堯舜於戴晉人之前,譬猶一吷也。」

Huizi said, "When you blow a pipe, there is still a droning sound. When you blow across the pommel hole of a sword, there is only a puff. Yao and Shun are what men praise, but to speak of Yao and Shun before Dai Jinren is like a single puff."

30Confucius goes to Chu and lodges at Ant Hill

孔子之楚,舍於蟻丘之漿。其鄰有夫妻臣妾登極者,子路曰:「是稯稯何為者邪?」

When Confucius went to Chu, he lodged at the wine seller's at Ant Hill. Next door a husband and a wife and menservants and maidservants had climbed up on the roof. Zilu said, "What are those people gathered up there doing?"

31Is that not Shinan Yiliao

仲尼曰:「是聖人僕也。是自埋於民,自藏於畔。其聲銷,其志無窮,其口雖言,其心未嘗言,方且與世違而心不屑與之俱。是陸沈者也,是其市南宜僚邪?」

Zhongni said, "That man is a sage's servant. He has buried himself among the people and hidden himself among the field paths.

His voice has died away, but his purpose has no limit. His mouth may speak, but his heart has never spoken. He sets himself against the age, and in his heart he does not care to go along with it. This is a man drowned on dry land. Is that not Shinan Yiliao?"

32Zilu asks leave to go and call him

子路請往召之。

Zilu asked leave to go and call him.

33He will take me for a flatterer

孔子曰:「已矣!彼知丘之著於己也,知丘之適楚也,以丘為必使楚王之召己也,彼且以丘為佞人也。夫若然者,其於佞人也羞聞其言,而況親見其身乎!而何以為存?」

Confucius said, "Let it be. He knows that I would make him known, and he knows that I am going to Chu, and he will think that I mean to have the king of Chu summon him. He will take me for a flatterer.

A man like that is ashamed even to hear a flatterer's words, how much more to see him in person. Then how should he still be there?"

34Zilu goes and finds the house empty

子路往視之,其室虛矣。

Zilu went and looked, and the house was already empty.

35The border warden of Changwu speaks to Zilao

長梧封人問子牢曰:「君為政焉勿鹵莽,治民焉勿滅裂。昔予為禾,耕而鹵莽之,則其實亦鹵莽而報予;芸而滅裂之,其實亦滅裂而報予。予來年變齊,深其耕而熟耰之,其禾蘩以滋,予終年厭飧。」

The border warden of Changwu said to Zilao, "When you govern, my lord, do not be rough, and when you rule the people, do not be careless.

Once when I grew grain, I plowed roughly, and the grain paid me back roughly. I weeded carelessly, and the grain paid me back carelessly. The next year I changed my way. I plowed deep and covered the seed well, and the grain grew thick and lush, and I ate my fill the whole year through."

36Those who govern their own bodies and order their own hearts

莊子聞之曰:「今人之治其形,理其心,多有似封人之所謂,遁其天,離其性,滅其情,亡其神,以衆為。故鹵莽其性者,欲惡之孽,為性萑葦蒹葭,始萌以扶吾形,尋擢吾性;並潰漏發,不擇所出,漂疽疥癕,內熱溲膏是也。」

Zhuangzi heard of this and said, "In the way men now govern their bodies and order their hearts, there is much that is like what the border warden said. They run away from their heaven, leave their nature, wipe out their true state, and lose their spirit, and so they do the business of the crowd.

So in one who is rough with his nature, the sprouts of desire and hatred become reeds and rushes in that nature. When they first shoot up they seem to hold up my body, and before long they pull up my nature. They break and leak and burst all at once and choose no place to come out, and this is what running sores and scabs and boils are, and the inner heat that passes out as grease."

37Bo Ju studies under Lao Dan

柏矩學於老耼,曰:「請之天下遊。」

Bo Ju studied under Lao Dan and said, "I ask leave to wander in the world."

38Let it be, the world is all like this

老耼曰:「已矣!天下猶是也。」

Lao Dan said, "Let it be. The world is all like this."

39Where will you begin

又請之,老耼曰:「汝將何始?」

He asked again, and Lao Dan said, "Where will you begin?"

40I will begin in Qi

曰:「始於齊。」

He said, "I will begin in Qi."

41He covers the dead man with his court robe and wails

至齊,見辜人焉,推而強之,解朝服而幕之,號天而哭之,曰:「子乎!子乎!天下有大菑,子獨先離之,曰莫為盜!莫為殺人!榮辱立,然後覩所病;貨財聚,然後覩所爭。今立人之所病,聚人之所爭,窮困人之身使无休時,欲无至此,得乎!」

He came to Qi, and there he saw a man who had been put to death for a crime. He pushed him and laid him out straight, took off his court robe and covered him with it, and called on heaven and wailed for him.

"You there, you there. There is a great calamity in the world, and you alone have met it first. They say, 'Do not steal, do not kill.' But when glory and disgrace are set up, only then is it seen what sickens men. When goods and wealth are heaped up, only then is it seen what men fight over.

Now they set up what sickens men and heap up what men fight over, and they wear men's bodies down with want so that they have no time to rest. And then they wish that it would not come to this. Can such a wish be had?"

42The old rulers put what was gained with the people and what was lost with themselves

「古之君人者,以得為在民,以失為在己;以正為在民,以枉為在己;故一形有失其形者,退而自責。今則不然,匿為物而愚不識,大為難而罪不敢,重為任而罰不勝,遠其塗而誅不至。民知力竭,則以偽繼之,日出多偽,士民安取不偽!夫力不足則偽,知不足則欺,財不足則盜。盜竊之行,於誰責而可乎?」

"Those who ruled men in old times put what was gained with the people and what was lost with themselves. They put what was straight with the people and what was crooked with themselves. So if even one body lost its form, they withdrew and blamed themselves.

Now it is not so. They hide a thing away and then call men fools for not knowing it. They make a thing very hard and then punish men for not daring it. They load the burden heavy and then penalize men for not bearing it. They make the road long and then put men to death for not arriving.

When the people's knowledge and strength are used up, they carry on with falsehood. Day by day falsehood grows, and how should officers and people not be false? When strength is not enough, men lie. When knowledge is not enough, men cheat. When goods are not enough, men steal. For the deeds of stealing and thieving, on whom is it right to lay the blame?"

43Qu Boyu lived sixty years and changed sixty times

蘧伯玉行年六十而六十化,未嘗不始於是之而卒詘之以非也,未知今之所謂是之非五十九非也。萬物有乎生而莫見其根,有乎出而莫見其門。人皆尊其知之所知,而莫知恃其知之所不知而後知,可不謂大疑乎!已乎!已乎!且无所逃。此所謂然與,然乎?

Qu Boyu lived sixty years and changed sixty times. There was never a time when he did not begin by calling a thing right and end by pushing it away as wrong. He does not know whether what he now calls right is not the wrong of the past fifty-nine years.

The ten thousand things have their birth, but no one sees their root. They have their coming forth, but no one sees their gate.

Men all honor what their knowledge knows, but none knows how to lean on what his knowledge does not know and only then to know. Is that not to be called a great doubt? Let it be, let it be. And there is nowhere to escape to. This is what is called being so. Is it so indeed?

44Zhongni asks the historians about Duke Ling of Wei

仲尼問於大史大弢、伯常騫、狶韋曰:「夫衞靈公飲酒湛樂,不聽國家之政;田獵畢弋,不應諸侯之際;其所以為靈公者何邪?」

Zhongni asked the grand historians Da Tao, Bo Changqian, and Xi Wei, "Duke Ling of Wei drank wine and sank into pleasure and did not attend to the government of the state. He hunted and netted and shot with stringed arrows and did not answer to the dealings among the feudal lords. Then why was he called Ling?"

45It is for just that reason

大弢曰:「是因是也。」

Da Tao said, "It is for just that reason."

46The man who bathed with three wives was grave before a worthy man

伯常騫曰:「夫靈公有妻三人,同濫而浴。史鰌奉御而進所,搏幣而扶翼。其慢若彼之甚也,見賢人若此其肅也,是其所以為靈公也。」

Bo Changqian said, "Duke Ling had three wives, and he bathed with them in one tub. Yet when Shi Qiu came forward at the ruler's call, the duke took up the offering of silk and helped him and supported him. He was as loose as that in the one case, and as grave as this when he saw a worthy man. That is why he was called Ling."

47The inscription on the stone coffin from Sand Hill

狶韋曰:「夫靈公也死,卜葬於故墓不吉,卜葬於沙丘而吉。掘之數仞,得石槨焉,洗而視之,有銘焉,曰:『不馮其子,靈公奪而里之。』夫靈公之為靈也久矣,之二人何足以識之!」

Xi Wei said, "When Duke Ling died, they divined about burying him in the old graveyard and it was not auspicious, and they divined about burying him at Sand Hill and it was auspicious. They dug down several fathoms and found a stone coffin. They washed it and looked at it, and there was an inscription on it that said, 'He shall not lean on his son. Duke Ling shall take this and lodge in it.' Duke Ling has been Ling for a long time. How could those two men know enough to tell it?"

48Shaozhi asks Dagong Diao about the talk of the village

少知問於大公調曰:「何謂丘里之言?」

Shaozhi asked Dagong Diao, "What is meant by the talk of the village?"

49Ten surnames and a hundred names gathered into a custom

大公調曰:「丘里者,合十姓百名而以為風俗也,合異以為同,散同以為異。今指馬之百體而不得馬,而馬係於前者,立其百體而謂之馬也。是故丘山積卑而為高,江河合水而為大,大人合并而為公。是以自外入者,有主而不執;由中出者,有正而不距。四時殊氣,天不賜,故歲成;五官殊職,君不私,故國治;文武大人不賜,故德備;萬物殊理,道不私,故无名。无名故无為,无為而无不為。時有終始,世有變化。禍福淳淳,至有所拂者而有所宜;自殉殊面,有所正者有所差。比於大澤,百材皆度;觀於大山,木石同壇。此之謂丘里之言。」

Dagong Diao said, "A village is ten surnames and a hundred names gathered and made into a custom. It gathers the different and makes them the same, and it scatters the same and makes them different.

Now if you point to the hundred parts of a horse, you do not get the horse. But when the horse is tied up before you, you set its hundred parts together and call it a horse.

For this reason hills and mountains pile up the low and become high, rivers and streams gather their waters and become great, and the great man gathers all together and becomes impartial.

So what comes in from outside has a host, but he does not hold on to it, and what goes out from within has its straightness, but he does not block it.

The four seasons differ in their breath, but heaven favors none of them, and so the year is completed. The five offices differ in their charge, but the ruler is partial to none, and so the state is governed. Civil and military differ, but the great man favors neither, and so virtue is complete. The ten thousand things differ in their pattern, but the Way is partial to none, and so it has no name.

Having no name, it does nothing. Doing nothing, there is nothing it does not do. Times have their ending and their beginning, and ages have their changes. Fortune and misfortune flow on, and where they arrive there is something crossed and there is something fitting. Each follows its own face to its death, and where there is something straight there is something off.

Set it beside a great marsh, and a hundred kinds of timber are all measured there. Look at a great mountain, and trees and stones stand on the same ground. This is what is called the talk of the village."

50Then is it enough to call it the Way

少知曰:「然則謂之道,足乎?」

Shaozhi said, "Then is it enough to call this the Way?"

51The ten thousand things is a name given for the largeness of the number

大公調曰:「不然。今計物之數,不止於萬,而期曰萬物者,以數之多者號而讀之也。是故天地者,形之大者也;陰陽者,氣之大者也;道者為之公。因其大以號而讀之則可也,已有之矣,乃將得比哉!則若以斯辯,譬猶狗馬,其不及遠矣。」

Dagong Diao said, "It is not. If you count the number of things now, it does not stop at ten thousand. Yet we fix on the words ten thousand things because we name and speak of them by the largest of numbers.

For this reason heaven and earth are the greatest of forms, yin and yang are the greatest of breaths, and the Way is what is common to them.

To name and speak of it from its greatness is allowable. But once you have said that it is there, are you then to set it beside other things? To make your distinctions in this way is like a dog and a horse. It falls far short."

52Where do the ten thousand things arise

少知曰:「四方之內,六合之裏,萬物之所生惡起?」

Shaozhi said, "Within the four directions and inside the six directions, where do the ten thousand things arise in their birth?"

53Yin and yang shine on each other, cover each other, govern each other

大公調曰:「陰陽相照相蓋相治,四時相代相生相殺,欲惡去就於是橋起,雌雄片合於是庸有。安危相易,禍福相生,緩急相摩,聚散以成。此名實之可紀,精微之可志也。隨序之相理,橋運之相使,窮則反,終則始。此物之所有,言之所盡,知之所至,極物而已。覩道之人,不隨其所廢,不原其所起,此議之所止。」

Dagong Diao said, "Yin and yang shine on each other, cover each other, govern each other. The four seasons take turns with each other, give birth to each other, kill each other. Desire and hatred, going away and drawing near, rise up here like a bridge thrown across, and male and female pair and join and here become constant.

Safety and danger change places with each other, fortune and misfortune give birth to each other, slow and fast rub against each other, and gathering and scattering bring things to completion. These are what can be recorded by name and substance, what can be set down to its finest and smallest part.

They follow in order and make each other's pattern, they move like a bridge thrown across and set each other going, and when they reach an end they turn back, and when they finish they begin. This is what things possess, what words exhaust, what knowledge reaches. It is going to the end of things, no more.

The man who has seen the Way does not follow after where they perish and does not trace out where they arise. This is where argument comes to a stop."

54Jizhen's no one does it and Jiezi's something makes it so

少知曰:「季真之莫為,接子之或使,二家之議,孰正於其情,孰徧於其理?」

Shaozhi said, "There is Jizhen's 'no one does it' and Jiezi's 'something makes it so.' Of the arguments of these two houses, which is straight about the true state of things, and which goes all the way round in its pattern?"

55The cock crows and the dog barks, and all men know it

大公調曰:「雞鳴狗吠,是人之所知;雖有大知,不能以言讀其所自化,又不能以意其所將為。斯而析之,精至於无倫,大至於不可圍,或之使,莫之為,未免於物而終以為過。或使則實,莫為則虛。有名有實,是物之居;无名无實,在物之虛。可言可意,言而愈疏。未生不可忌,已死不可徂。死生非遠也,理不可覩。或之使,莫之為,疑之所假。吾觀之本,其往无窮;吾求之末,其來无止。无窮无止,言之无也,與物同理;或使莫為,言之本也,與物終始。道不可有,有不可无。道之為名,所假而行。或使莫為,在物一曲,夫胡為於大方?言而足,則終日言而盡道;言而不足,則終日言而盡物。道物之極,言默不足以載;非言非默,議有所極。」

Dagong Diao said, "That the cock crows and the dog barks is what all men know. Yet even a man of great knowledge cannot put into words how they change of themselves, nor can he guess with his mind what they are going to do.

Split this apart and divide it, and the fine reaches to where there is nothing to match it, and the great reaches to where it cannot be enclosed. 'Something makes it so' and 'no one does it' do not get free of things, and in the end they are faults.

Say that something makes it so, and it is full. Say that no one does it, and it is empty. What has a name and has substance is where things dwell. What has no name and no substance lies in the emptiness of things. It can be spoken of and thought of, but the more it is spoken of, the further off it goes.

What is not yet born cannot be kept away, and what is already dead cannot be stopped. Death and life are not far off, but their pattern cannot be seen. 'Something makes it so' and 'no one does it' are borrowed from doubt.

When I look at its root, its going has no limit. When I seek its end, its coming has no stop. What has no limit and no stop is where words are absent, and it shares one pattern with things. 'Something makes it so' and 'no one does it' are the root of words, and they finish and begin along with things.

The Way cannot be had, and what is had cannot be done away with. The name Way is borrowed so that we may go on. 'Something makes it so' and 'no one does it' stand at one bend of things. What have they to do with the great course?

If words were enough, we could speak all day and exhaust the Way. Since words are not enough, we speak all day and exhaust only things. The farthest point of the Way and of things cannot be carried by speech or by silence. Neither speech nor silence: there is where argument reaches its limit."