Duke Wen of Teng, Part One滕文公上
1He speaks of the goodness of human nature and always cites Yao and Shun
滕文公為世子,將之楚,過宋而見孟子。孟子道性善,言必稱堯、舜。 世子自楚反,復見孟子。孟子曰:「世子疑吾言乎?夫道一而已矣。成覸謂齊景公曰:『彼丈夫也,我丈夫也,吾何畏彼哉?』顏淵曰:『舜何人也?予何人也?有為者亦若是。』公明儀曰:『文王我師也,周公豈欺我哉?』今滕絕長補短,將五十里也,猶可以為善國。《書》曰:『若藥不瞑眩,厥疾不瘳。』」
When Duke Wen of Teng was crown prince, he was on his way to Chu and passed through Song, where he saw Mencius. Mencius spoke of the goodness of human nature (性善), and whenever he spoke he always cited Yao and Shun.
The crown prince, coming back from Chu, saw Mencius again. Mencius said, "Does the crown prince doubt my words? The Way is one, and that is all.
Cheng Jian said to Duke Jing of Qi, 'He is a man and I am a man. Why should I fear him?' Yan Yuan said, 'What kind of man was Shun, and what kind of man am I? One who sets himself to it is also like that.' Gongming Yi said, 'King Wen is my teacher. How would the Duke of Zhou deceive me?'
Now if Teng cuts off where it is long and fills in where it is short, it will be some fifty li, and even so a good state can be made of it. The Shu says, 'If the medicine does not make the head swim, the illness will not be cured.'"
2He keeps the three-year mourning — the wind and the grass
滕定公薨,世子謂然友曰:「昔者孟子嘗與我言於宋,於心終不忘。今也不幸至於大故,吾欲使子問於孟子,然後行事。」 然友之鄒問於孟子。 孟子曰:「不亦善乎!親喪固所自盡也。曾子曰:『生,事之以禮;死,葬之以禮,祭之以禮,可謂孝矣。』諸侯之禮,吾未之學也。雖然,吾嘗聞之矣:三年之喪,齋疏之服,飦粥之食,自天子達於庶人,三代共之。」 然友反命,定為三年之喪。父兄百官皆不欲也,故曰:「吾宗國魯先君莫之行,吾先君亦莫之行也;至於子之身而反之,不可。且《志》曰:『喪祭從先祖。』」曰:「吾有所受之也。」 謂然友曰:「吾他日未嘗學問,好馳馬試劍。今也父兄百官不我足也;恐其不能盡於大事。子為我問孟子。」 然友復之鄒問孟子。 孟子曰:「然,不可以他求者也。孔子曰:『君薨,聽於冢宰,飦粥,面深墨,即位而哭。百官有司,莫敢不哀,先之也。上有好者,下必有甚焉者矣。君子之德,風也;小人之德,草也。草上之風必偃。』。是在世子。」 然友反命。 世子曰:「然,是誠在我。」 五月居廬,未有命戒。百官族人,可謂曰知。及至葬,四方來觀之。顏色之戚,哭泣之哀,弔者大悅。
When Duke Ding of Teng died, the crown prince said to Ranyou, "What Mencius once said to me in Song I have never been able to forget. Now misfortune has brought this great matter upon us. I wish to send you to ask Mencius, and to carry out the rites after that."
Ranyou went to Zou and asked Mencius.
Mencius said, "Is this not good! Mourning for a parent is a thing a man must fulfill to the utmost of himself. Zengzi said, 'While they live, serve them according to the rites; when they die, bury them according to the rites and sacrifice to them according to the rites. This may be called filial.' The rites of the feudal lords I have not studied. Even so, I have heard this: the three-year mourning, the coarse hempen garment, the food of thin gruel and porridge — from the Son of Heaven down to the common man, the three dynasties held these in common."
Ranyou came back and reported, and the three-year mourning was settled upon. The kinsmen of his father's and elder brothers' generation and the hundred officers all were unwilling, and they said, "The former rulers of Lu, our ancestral state, did not practice it, and our own former rulers did not practice it. To overturn this in your generation cannot be done. And the Zhi (志) says, 'In mourning and sacrifice, follow the ancestors.'" The crown prince said, "I have that which I received."
He said to Ranyou, "In past days I never studied or asked questions. I liked galloping horses and trying swords. Now the kinsmen and the hundred officers do not think me equal to this, and I fear I cannot fulfill the great matter. Ask Mencius for me."
Ranyou went again to Zou and asked Mencius.
Mencius said, "So it is. This is not a thing to be sought elsewhere. Confucius said, 'When a ruler dies, the government is given over to the prime minister. The heir eats gruel, his face turns deep black, he takes his place and wails. Among the hundred officers and the functionaries there is none who dares not to grieve, because he has gone before them. When there is something the one above loves, below there is always one who loves it more. The virtue of the gentleman is the wind, and the virtue of the small man is the grass. When the wind passes over the grass, the grass must bend.' This rests with the crown prince."
Ranyou came back and reported.
The crown prince said, "So it is. This rests truly with me."
For five months he lived in the mourning hut and gave out no order or warning. The hundred officers and his kinsmen could be said to know. When the burial came, people came from the four quarters to see it, and at the grief in his face and the sorrow of his weeping the mourners were greatly satisfied.
3He asks about governing the state — boundaries and the well-field (井田)
滕文公問為國。 孟子曰:「民事不可緩也。《詩》云:『晝爾于茅,宵爾索绹。亟其乘屋,其始播百穀。』民之為道也,有恒產者有恒心,無恒產者無恒心。茍無恒心,放僻邪侈,無不為已。及陷乎罪然後從而刑之,是罔民也。焉有仁人在位罔民而可為也?是故賢君必恭儉禮下,取於民有制。陽虎曰:『為富不仁矣;為仁不富矣。』 夏后氏五十而貢,殷人七十而助,周人百畝而徹。其實皆什一也。徹者徹也,助者藉也。龍子曰:『治地莫善於助,莫不善於貢。貢者校數歲之中以為常。樂歲粒米狼戾,多取之而不為虐,則寡取之;兇年糞其田而不足,則必取盈焉。為民父母,使民盻盻然,將終歲勤動,不得以養其父母,又稱貸而益之,使老稚轉乎溝壑,惡在其為民父母也?』夫世祿滕固行之矣。《詩》云:『雨我公田,遂及我私。』惟助為有公田。由此觀之,雖周亦助也。 設為庠序學校以教之。庠者養也,校者教也,序者射也。夏曰校,殷曰序,周曰庠,學則三代共之,皆所以明人倫也。人倫明於上,小民親於下。有王者起,必來取法,是為王者師也。《詩》云:『周雖舊邦,其命維新。』文王之謂也。子力行之,亦以新子之國!」 使畢戰問井地。 孟子曰:「子之君將行仁政,選擇而使子,子必勉之。夫仁政必自經界始。經界不正,井地不均,穀祿不平。是故暴君污吏必慢其經界。經界既正,分田制祿,可坐而定也。」 「夫滕壤地褊小,將為君子焉,將為野人焉。無君子莫治野人,無野人莫養君子。請野九一而助,國中什一使自賦。卿以下必有圭田。圭田五十畝,餘夫二十五畝。死徙無出鄉,鄉田同井,出入相友,守望相助,疾病相扶持,則百姓親睦。方里而井;井九百畝,其中為公田。八家皆私百畝,同養公田。公事畢,然後敢治私事,所以別野人也。此其大略也。若夫潤澤之,則在君與子矣。」
Duke Wen of Teng asked about governing the state.
Mencius said, "The work of the people cannot be put off. The Shi says, 'By day you cut the thatch, by night you twist the rope. Hurry up onto the roof, for then you begin to sow the hundred grains.'
The Way of the people is this. Those who have a settled livelihood have a settled heart, and those who have no settled livelihood have no settled heart. If a man truly has no settled heart, there is nothing he will not do, loose and wayward and crooked and extravagant. And when he has fallen into crime, to go after him and punish him is to net the people. How could a benevolent man in office do a thing like netting the people?
Therefore a worthy ruler is always respectful and thrifty and treats those below him with courtesy, and there is a measure in what he takes from the people. Yang Hu said, 'He who works for riches is not benevolent, and he who works for benevolence does not grow rich.'
The house of Xiahou gave fifty mu and used the tribute method (貢法), the men of Yin gave seventy mu and used the aid method (助法), and the men of Zhou gave a hundred mu and used the through method (徹法). In substance all of them were one part in ten. Che (徹) means to gather in, and zhu (助) means to borrow.
Master Long said, 'For managing land there is nothing better than the aid method and nothing worse than the tribute method. The tribute method compares the middle of several years and makes that the fixed amount. In a good year the grain lies scattered in plenty, and to take much would not be harsh, yet little is taken; in a bad year there is not even enough to manure the field, yet the full amount is always taken. To be father and mother to the people, and to make the people look with resentful eyes, toiling the whole year long and still unable to support their own parents, and then to make them borrow to fill out the tax, so that the old and the young roll into the ditches and gullies — where is the being father and mother to the people in that?'
Hereditary stipends Teng has practiced all along. The Shi says, 'Rain upon our public field, and then reach our private fields.' Only the aid method has a public field. Looking at it this way, Zhou too used the aid method.
Set up the xiang (庠), the xu (序), the xue (學) and the xiao (校) to teach them. Xiang means to nourish, xiao means to teach, and xu means to shoot the bow. Xia called it xiao, Yin called it xu, Zhou called it xiang, and the xue the three dynasties held in common. All of them are for making human relations clear. When human relations are clear above, the small people are close to one another below.
If a true king arises, he will surely come and take his model here, and this is to be the teacher of a king. The Shi says, 'Though Zhou is an old state, its mandate is new.' This speaks of King Wen. Put it into practice with all your strength, and you too will make your state new!"
He sent Bi Zhan to ask about the well-field system.
Mencius said, "Your ruler is about to practice benevolent government, and he chose you and sent you, so you must put your strength into it. Benevolent government must begin with setting the boundaries right. If the boundaries are not right, the well-fields are not even and the grain stipends are not fair. Therefore a cruel ruler and a filthy official are always careless about the boundaries. Once the boundaries are right, dividing the fields and fixing the stipends can be settled sitting down.
Teng is narrow and small in its land, yet it must have gentlemen and it must have countrymen. Without gentlemen there is no one to govern the countrymen, and without countrymen there is no one to feed the gentlemen.
I ask that in the country you use one part in nine with the aid method, and that within the capital they pay one part in ten themselves. From the rank of minister (卿) downward there must be a sacrificial field (圭田). The sacrificial field is fifty mu, and each grown man over and above gets twenty-five mu.
Though they die or move, they do not leave the district. The fields of the district lie in the same well, and going out and coming in they are friends to one another, they help one another in guarding and watching, and they hold one another up in sickness and disease. Then the people are close and harmonious.
A square li makes one well. One well is nine hundred mu, and the middle of it is the public field. The eight households each hold a hundred mu of private field and together tend the public field. Only when the public work is finished do they dare to see to their private work, and this is how the countrymen are set apart. This is the outline of it. As for smoothing and polishing it, that rests with your ruler and with you."
4The dispute with Xu Xing — those who labor with their minds and those who labor with their strength
有為神農之言者許行,自楚之滕,踵門而告文公,曰:「遠方之人,聞君行仁政,愿受一廛而為氓。」文公與之處。其徒數十人,皆衣褐、捆屨、織席以為食。 陳良之徒陳相與其弟辛,負耒耜而自宋之滕。曰:「聞君行聖人之政,是亦聖人也,愿為聖人氓。」 陳相見許行而大悅,盡棄其學而學焉。 陳相見孟子,道許行之言曰:「滕君則誠賢君也;雖然,未聞道也。賢者與民并耕而食,饔飧而治。今也滕有倉廩府庫,則是厲民而以自養也,惡得賢?」 孟子曰:「許子必種粟而後食乎?」 曰:「然。」 「許子必織布而後衣乎?」 曰:「否,許子衣褐。」 「許子冠乎?」 曰:「冠。」 曰:「奚冠?」 曰:「冠素。」 曰:「自織之與?」 曰:「否,以粟易之。」 曰:「許子奚為不自織?」 曰:「害於耕。」 曰:「許子以釜甑爨、以鐵耕乎?」 曰:「然。」 「自為之與?」 曰:「否,以粟易之。」 「以粟易械器者,不為厲陶冶;陶冶亦以其械器易粟者,豈為厲農夫哉?且許子何不為陶冶,舍皆取諸其宮中而用之?何為紛紛然與百工交易?何許子之不憚煩?」 曰:「百工之事,固不可耕且為也。」 「然則治天下獨可耕且為與?有大人之事,有小人之事。且一人之身,而百工之所為備。如必自為而後用之,是率天下而路也。故曰:或勞心,或勞力。勞心者治人,勞力者治於人。治於人者食人,治人者食於人──天下之通義也。」 「當堯之時,天下猶未平,洪水橫流,氾濫於天下;草木暢茂,禽獸繁殖;五穀不登,禽獸偪人;獸蹄鳥跡之道,交於中國。堯獨憂之,舉舜而敷治焉。舜使益掌火;益烈山澤而焚之,禽獸逃匿。禹疏九河,瀹濟、漯而注諸海;決汝、漢,排淮、泗,而注之江,然後中國可得而食也。當是時也,禹八年於外,三過其門而不入,雖欲耕,得乎?」 「后稷教民稼穡,樹藝五穀,五穀熟而民人育。人之有道也,飽食煖衣,逸居而無教,則近於禽獸。聖人有憂之,使契為司徒,教以人倫:父子有親,君臣有義,夫婦有別,長幼有序,朋友有信。放勛曰:『勞之來之、匡之直之、輔之翼之,使自得之;又從而振德之。』聖人之憂民如此,而暇耕乎?」 「堯以不得舜為己憂;舜以不得禹、皋陶為己憂。夫以百畝之不易為己憂者,農夫也。分人以財謂之惠,教人以善謂之忠,為天下得人者謂之仁。是故以天下與人易,為天下得人難。孔子曰:『大哉,堯之為君!惟天為大,惟堯則之。蕩蕩乎民無能名焉!君哉舜也!巍巍乎有天下而不與焉!』堯舜之治天下,豈無所用其心哉?亦不用於耕耳。」 「吾聞用夏變夷者,未聞變於夷者也。陳良,楚產也;悅周公、仲尼之道,北學於中國,北方之學者,未能或之先也。彼所謂豪傑之士也。子之兄弟事之數十年,師死而遂倍之。昔者孔子沒,三年之外,門人治任將歸,入揖於子貢,相向而哭,皆失聲,然後歸。子貢反,筑室於場,獨居三年,然後歸。他日子夏、子張、子游以有若似聖人,欲以所事孔子事之,強曾子。曾子曰:『不可,江漢以濯之,秋陽以暴之,皜皜乎不可尚已。』今也南蠻鴃舌之人,非先王之道,子倍子之師而學之,亦異於曾子矣。吾聞出於幽谷、遷于喬木者,未聞下喬木而入於幽谷者。魯頌曰:『戎狄是膺,荊舒是懲。』周公方且膺之,子是之學,亦為不善變矣。」 「從許子之道,則市賈不貳,國中無偽;雖使五尺之童適市,莫之或欺。布帛長短同,則賈相若;麻縷絲絮輕重同,則賈相若;五穀多寡同,則賈相若;屨大小同,則賈相若。」 曰:「夫物之不齊,物之情也。或相倍蓰,或相什百,或相千萬;子比而同之,是亂天下也。巨屨小屨同賈,人豈為之哉?從許子之道,相率而為偽者也,惡能治國家?」
There was one Xu Xing, who spoke the words of Shennong. He came from Chu to Teng, went up to the gate and said to Duke Wen, "A man from a far country has heard that you practice benevolent government, and he wishes to receive a plot of ground and become one of your people." Duke Wen gave him a place to live. His followers, several dozen men, all wore coarse cloth and made sandals and wove mats for their living.
Chen Xiang, a disciple of Chen Liang, came with his younger brother Xin from Song to Teng, carrying plow and plowshare on their backs, and said, "We have heard that you practice the government of the sages, and this makes you a sage as well. We wish to become the people of a sage."
When Chen Xiang saw Xu Xing he was greatly delighted, and he threw away all that he had learned and learned from him.
Chen Xiang saw Mencius and passed on the words of Xu Xing. "The ruler of Teng is truly a worthy ruler. Even so, he has not yet heard the Way. A worthy man plows together with the people and eats, and cooks his own morning and evening meal while he governs. Now Teng has granaries and storehouses, and this is to afflict the people in order to feed himself. How can he be called worthy?"
Mencius said, "Must Master Xu sow grain before he eats?"
"He must."
"Must Master Xu weave cloth before he wears it?"
"No. Master Xu wears coarse cloth."
"Does Master Xu wear a cap?"
"He does."
"What cap does he wear?"
"He wears a plain white cap."
"Does he weave it himself?"
"No. He trades grain for it."
"Why does Master Xu not weave it himself?"
"Because it would get in the way of his plowing."
"Does Master Xu cook with a kettle and an earthen steamer, and plow with iron?"
"He does."
"Does he make them himself?"
"No. He trades grain for them."
"If trading grain for vessels and tools does not afflict the potter and the smith, how should the potter and the smith, trading their vessels and tools for grain, be afflicting the farmer?
And why does Master Xu not work as a potter and a smith, and take everything he uses from his own house? Why does he trade back and forth in such confusion with all the hundred craftsmen? Why does Master Xu not shrink from all that trouble?"
"The work of the hundred craftsmen certainly cannot be done while plowing."
"Then is governing all under heaven the one thing that can be done while plowing? There is the work of great men and there is the work of small men. And in the body of a single man the work of the hundred craftsmen is provided. If a man must make everything himself before he uses it, this is to lead all under heaven out onto the road.
Therefore it is said, 'Some labor with their minds and some labor with their strength. Those who labor with their minds govern others, and those who labor with their strength are governed by others. Those who are governed by others feed them, and those who govern others are fed by them.' This is the right that runs through all under heaven.
In the time of Yao all under heaven was not yet settled. The flood waters ran crosswise and spread over all under heaven. Grasses and trees grew thick and birds and beasts multiplied, the five grains did not ripen and birds and beasts pressed upon men. The tracks of beasts and the marks of birds crossed one another through the central states. Yao alone grieved over this, and he raised up Shun to spread order over it.
Shun put Yi in charge of fire, and Yi set the mountains and marshes ablaze and burned them, and the birds and beasts fled and hid. Yu opened the nine rivers, cleared the Ji and the Ta and led them into the sea, cut through the Ru and the Han, pushed out the Huai and the Si and led them into the Jiang. Only after that could the central states get food. In that time Yu was eight years outside, and three times he passed his own gate and did not go in. Even if he had wished to plow, could he have done it?
Houji taught the people to sow and reap and to plant and tend the five grains, and when the five grains ripened the people were nourished. Men have their way. If they eat their fill and dress warmly and live at ease without teaching, they come near to the birds and beasts. The sage grieved over this and made Xie (契) Minister of Instruction, to teach human relations: that between father and son there is affection, between ruler and minister there is duty, between husband and wife there is distinction, between elder and younger there is order, and between friends there is trust.
Fangxun said, 'Toil for them and draw them near, set them straight and make them upright, help them and lend them wings, so that they may get it for themselves, and then follow after and raise them up with kindness.' The sage grieved for the people like this. Had he leisure to plow?
Yao made his own grief of not getting Shun, and Shun made his own grief of not getting Yu and Gao Yao. The man who makes his own grief of a hundred mu untilled is a farmer.
To share one's wealth with others is called kindness. To teach others what is good is called loyalty. To find the right man for all under heaven is called benevolence. Therefore it is easy to give all under heaven to another, and hard to find the right man for all under heaven.
Confucius said, 'Great was Yao as a ruler! Only Heaven is great, and only Yao took it for his model. So vast that the people could find no name for it! What a ruler was Shun! So lofty that he held all under heaven and was not bound by it!' In governing all under heaven, how could Yao and Shun have had nothing on which they used their minds? Only they did not use it on plowing.
I have heard of using the ways of Xia (夏) to change the tribes, but I have never heard of being changed by the barbarians. Chen Liang was born in Chu. He delighted in the Way of the Duke of Zhou and of Zhongni, and he went north to study in the central states, and among the scholars of the north there was none who could go before him. He was what is called a man of heroic gifts.
You and your brother served him for several dozen years, and when your teacher died you turned your backs on him. In the old days, when Confucius died, after three years his disciples packed their bags and were about to go home. They went in and bowed to Zigong, and facing one another they wailed until all had lost their voices, and then they went home. Zigong came back, built a hut by the grave mound and lived alone for three years, and then he went home.
Later Zixia, Zizhang and Ziyou, because You Ruo resembled the sage, wished to serve him as they had served Confucius, and they pressed Zengzi hard. Zengzi said, 'It cannot be done. Washed in the Jiang and the Han, bleached in the autumn sun, so white and bright that nothing can be added to it.'
Now a man of the southern barbarians with the tongue of a shrike says the Way of the former kings is wrong, and you turn your back on your teacher and learn from him. In this too you differ from Zengzi. I have heard of coming out of a dark valley and moving up to a tall tree, but I have never heard of coming down from a tall tree and going into a dark valley. The Lu Odes say, 'He struck the Rong and the Di, he punished Jing and Shu.' The Duke of Zhou was just then striking them, and you learn from these men. In this too you have not changed for the better."
"If we follow the Way of Master Xu, there will not be two prices in the market and there will be no falsehood in the state. Even if a child five feet tall is sent to the market, no one will cheat him. If cloth and silk are the same in length, their price is the same. If hemp and thread and silk floss are the same in weight, their price is the same. If the five grains are the same in quantity, their price is the same. If shoes are the same in size, their price is the same."
"That things are not equal is the nature of things. Some are twice or five times as much as others, some ten or a hundred times, some a thousand or ten thousand times. You would set them side by side and make them one, and this is to throw all under heaven into confusion. If a coarse shoe and a fine shoe are the same price, who would make the fine one? To follow the Way of Master Xu is to lead one another into falsehood. How could that govern a state?"
Interlinear notes 1
Fangxun (放勛) is Emperor Yao. — translator
5Yi Zhi the Mohist — the saying that love has no degrees
墨者夷之,因徐辟而求見孟子。孟子曰:「吾固愿見,今吾尚病,病愈,我且往見。」夷子不來! 他日又求見孟子。孟子曰:「吾今則可以見矣。不直則道不見,我且直之。吾聞夷子墨者,墨者之治喪也,以薄為其道也。夷子思以易天下,豈以為非是而不貴也?然而夷子葬其親厚,則是以所賤事親也。」 徐子以告夷子。 夷子曰:「儒者之道,古之人『若保赤子』,此言何謂也?之則以為愛無差等,施由親始。」 徐子以告孟子。 孟子曰:「夫夷子信以為人之親其兄之子為若親其鄰之赤子乎?彼有取爾也。赤子匍匐將入井,非赤子之罪也。且天之生物也使之一本,而夷子二本故也。蓋上世嘗有不葬其親者,其親死則舉而委之於壑。他日過之,狐貍食之,蠅蚋姑嘬之。其顙有泚,睨而不視。夫泚也,非為人泚,中心達於面目。蓋歸反虆梩而掩之,掩之誠是也。則孝子仁人之掩其親,亦必有道矣。」 徐子以告夷子。夷子憮然為間曰:「命之矣!」 上一篇回目录下一篇
Yi Zhi, a Mohist, asked through Xu Bi to see Mencius. Mencius said, "I have long wished to see him, but I am still ill. When the illness is better, I will go and see him." Master Yi did not come.
Another day he asked again to see Mencius. Mencius said, "Now I can see him. If I am not straight with him, the Way will not show itself, so I will be straight.
I hear that Master Yi is a Mohist. In conducting a funeral the Mohists take frugality for their way. Master Yi thinks to change all under heaven with it, so how should he hold it wrong and not prize it? And yet Master Yi buried his own parent richly, and this is to serve a parent with what he holds cheap."
Master Xu told this to Master Yi.
Master Yi said, "In the Way of the Confucians, the men of old were 'as though protecting a newborn child.' What does this saying mean? I take it that love has no degrees, but that the giving begins with one's parents."
Master Xu told this to Mencius.
Mencius said, "Does Master Yi truly believe that a man loves his elder brother's child as he loves his neighbor's newborn? There is something to be taken from that saying. A newborn crawling toward a well is not at fault.
And Heaven, in giving birth to things, made them have one root, while Master Yi makes two roots.
In the old world there were men who did not bury their parents. When his parent died, such a man took up the body and threw it into a gully. Passing the place another day, he saw foxes and wildcats eating it, and flies and gnats gathered and sucking at it. Sweat broke out on his forehead, and he looked sidelong and could not look straight. That sweat was not sweat for the sake of other men. His inmost heart had come out upon his face. He must have gone home and come back with basket and spade and covered it. If the covering was truly right, then in the covering of their parents by filial sons and benevolent men there must also be a way."
Master Xu told this to Master Yi. Master Yi stood blank for a while and said, "He has taught me!"